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  JW scientist banned from Institute's WebSite because of Creationistic Views

  by GermanXJW in

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  recently, dr. wolf-ekkehard loennig, a jw working in a leading position at the gene-science-department at the max-planck-institute, has been banned from the institute's website for spreading his view about evolution.

  he promotes the so called "intelligents design".

  max-planck-institute calles this creationism in disguise.

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  Sadie,

  Thank you for expressing what I somehow was incapable of putting into words!
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  JW scientist banned from Institute's WebSite because of Creationistic Views

  by GermanXJW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently, dr. wolf-ekkehard loennig, a jw working in a leading position at the gene-science-department at the max-planck-institute, has been banned from the institute's website for spreading his view about evolution.

  he promotes the so called "intelligents design".

  max-planck-institute calles this creationism in disguise.

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  Valis, rem

  I am not sure what comment of Ed's you are talking about. He started out comparing the attitude of some scientist types with some religous leaders, in his opinion. Opinions are based on perception, and there is no right or wrong. So where exactly did he go over the line? I am going back and reading his posts, and I don't see it.

  Abaddon,

  What is your point? I am not following you at all. Of course there is a difference between an informed opinion and an uninformed opinion. There is still no reason to call names over it. You seem to know quite a bit about what I know and don't know, btw. Exactly what uninformed opinion are we talking about anyway?
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  JW scientist banned from Institute's WebSite because of Creationistic Views

  by GermanXJW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently, dr. wolf-ekkehard loennig, a jw working in a leading position at the gene-science-department at the max-planck-institute, has been banned from the institute's website for spreading his view about evolution.

  he promotes the so called "intelligents design".

  max-planck-institute calles this creationism in disguise.

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  AlanF,

  I think my point is clear. You came off in your reply as elitist and condescending in your reply to Ed. The scientific method works well, but it is totally dependant on the people using it. Get a clue, scientists are human, they are not gods, and they do not have all the answers. I have no more time for their arrogance than I do for religous types who also claim to have some type of superiority.

  Feel free to respond with more name-calling.
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  JW scientist banned from Institute's WebSite because of Creationistic Views

  by GermanXJW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently, dr. wolf-ekkehard loennig, a jw working in a leading position at the gene-science-department at the max-planck-institute, has been banned from the institute's website for spreading his view about evolution.

  he promotes the so called "intelligents design".

  max-planck-institute calles this creationism in disguise.

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  Gee rem and AlanF, thanks for showing Ed the error of his ways. How silly for a non-scientist to express an opinion on a science-related subject. I'm sure your elitist condescending tone will serve as a warning to others.
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  Tuesday's CBS Program is Now Online

  by fjtoth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  cbs has now posted online what i think is the full program that was shown tuesday night, minus dan rather's comments.

  you can watch it by going to the following web page:

  http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml

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  Gotta disagree with you on this one Dansk. This was a five minute segment on one of the major US television broadcast networks. It was promoted at the opening of the newscast and probably on other spots earlier in the day or week. Millions of viewers saw this very well-done segment. Now its online at CBS, where anyone can refer to it.

  Yes, it was only a few minutes. Yes they did not cover all possible angles. But it was another blow to the Watchtower. No one documentary or news item is going to do the job. Every little bit helps, and this was a big step in the right direction. Heidi did a fantastic job, Bill was great. Hopefully the momentum will continue.
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  Help! Spouse thinks JW religion the most logical

  by bittersweet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my husband and i were discussing what makes some people become jw's last night.

  i was saying that if i hadn't grown up in it, i would have never been drawn to it at all.

  i'm not a very spiritual person.

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  Bitter,

  Ask him why Jehovah gave him nipples!! Can any creationist give me a reason why men have them???????

  Seriously, the flood is a basic belief of JWs that is very easy to debunk. Especially some of their earlier teachings regarding it that they have cautiously and slowly backed away from, hoping no one would notice. For example: it never rained before the Flood, all the animals were vegetarian before the Flood, a rainbow had never been seen before the Flood. Go to alt.talk.origins. It has tons of logical information on the Flood.

  Then have him research 607. I set out to prove to myself that 607 B.C.E. was the correct date for the destruction of Jerusalem. Guess what I found out????
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  The Shifting Sands of Interpretation

  by refiners fire in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  pondering upon the shifting sands of watchtower interpretation down the years, it is worthwhile to consider just one example of one scripture.

  we could look at many scriptures and establish ongoing shift, but here we will look at the ongoing shift of understanding relevant to the scripture at revelation 16 v 3 as an example:

  and the second poured out his bowl into the sea, and it became blood as of a dead man, and every living soul died, even the things that were in the sea.

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  JG you seem a tad confused. The Watchtower has never identified the UN as the King of the North. Up until recently the King of the North was taught to be the USSR. Since the demise of the Soviet Union, there is some vagueness to who the King of the North now is. The eighth king has nothing to do with the King of the North.

  Man I can't believe I can still explain this nonsense.
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  Silentlambs to be Interviewed by CBS Evening News

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  weekend and especially pay attention to the announcements.

  also watch the end of.

  "60 minutes" as there may be a special announcement there also.. .

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  I hate to say this, but I thought the 60 minutes piece on JW's and custody issues was biased, even now. I am not sure what the point of it was supposed to be. The gist of it seemed to be that Jehovah's Witnesses were raising their children to be *gasp* Jehovah's Witnesses. Now I can of course think of several reasons why this may not be a good thing, and of course if the parents are not both witnesses, there will probably be a conflict. But none of this was really brought out very well. It seemed to be automatically assumed that raising children to be JW was some kind of monstrous crime.
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  Whats the best internet music file sharing thingy....?

  by ScoobySnax in

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  have been using morpheus for a couple of years now, and hasn't been too bad at all, got about 400 tracks download.

  since gettiing aol broadband, the diversity seems to have diminished a bit, either i'm on the wrong dsl provider or morpheus isn't as good as it used to be.

  the one i was on previous (can't remember the name now) went totally pearshaped after it got served a writ for using copyrighted material.....anyway, know of any other good music file sharing sites?

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  Hilary

  Not one person seems to have tackled this issue of why they are not stealing from the ‘greedy peddlars of gas, electricity, motor vehicles etc. etc.

  Ok, I'll bite. If I steal your gas or your car, that means I have it and you don't. I can use it however I like, and you have ben deprived of the use of said item. If I copy a mp3 file from someone else's computer to mine, he still has it. I have not deprived him of anything. He is no poorer now than he was before I copied the file. I can make a million copies and it will not affect him in the least.

  So how is that stealing?

  Also, you seem to assume that without record sales, artists will starve to death or be forced to *gasp* give up their musical aspirations. So how do you explain the fact that music has been popular for centuries without the benefit of music stores. Somehow Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, etc all managed to write some of the world's greatest music without selling a single album.
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  Unbaptized Children Allowed to Say Prayer at the Table?

  by GermanXJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently a jw friend of mine was counseled by an elder because he let his children pray at the table.. i remember a co telling that an unbaptized child cannot pray at the table for the whole family.

  he stated that after such a prayer a baptized family member has to say another, a valid prayer.. does anyone remember that the wts published anything in writing about that matter?.

  not that i care, just wondering...

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  A recent QFR discussed the situation of a mealtime where the father is not present, and there is an baptised son present. If the mother did not feel he was capable of saying the prayer, she could do so. My question is, if little Timmy is not capable of saying grace, what the heck is he doing getting baptised????